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Questions
Describe your climbing
background:
I am originally from the east coast (Saint John,
New Brunswick). I was always into the outdoors and
adventure type activities as a young lad. I white
watered kayaked in the summers and snowboarded in
the winters while in high school. I always knew that
climbing would be something I would like. It seemed
like the ultimate adventure. Finally when I went
to university in Thunder Bay, Ontario when I was
18, I managed to beg someone to take me out to the
local crag and show me how to climb. That same winter,
I went ice climbing for my first time. I remember
it was a brutal -30 Celsius, I got a wicked case
of the barfies, bashed my knuckles all to hell but
I dug it. I was immediately smitten and it didn’t
take too long before climbing took more of my attention
than classes. After two years of suffering through
boring lectures, I decided to take a winter off school
to go rock climbing in New Zealand and Australia.
When I left I was a fledging 5.7 leader. By the time
the 7 month trip was up, I redpointed my first 5.12
at Arapiles. I also paddled and surfed down there.
It was the experience I needed—an intro to
dirt bagging. I traveled and climbed for 7 months
on only $3000. Needless to say, I didn’t make
it back to school. After seeing the mountains of
New Zealand, I wanted to learn more about mountaineering.
I knew we had cool mountains in Canada, so I bought
a station wagon and drove out west to the Canadian
Rockies and never looked back….
Why climb ice?
A simple answer: It’s Canada. We have a looooooong
winter to say the least, so ice climbing makes sense.
Climbers who live in areas without winter denounce
drytooling as contrived. Indeed it would be if your
idea of winter were good crisp rock climbing conditions.
Drytooling is our version of winter rock climbing
when the days are short and the average temp hovers
around -10 degrees Celsius.
Describe a climbing experience when things got out
of hand:
Near misses and epics are OK as long as we learn
from them. It’s when we have near misses and
ignore the lessons taught by them that are foolish.
My best epic of the self-imposed variety was Conny
Amelunxen and my first ascent of the east face of
Cerro Mascara (aka The Mummer) in Patagonia. We spent
14 days on the wall living out of a portaledge and
getting hammered by some of the worst weather imaginable.
The winds shredded our portaledge and ropes and scared
us senseless. We had ten days of food and water so
you do not have to be a mathematician to figure out
that we were hungry. We were psyched to make the
first ascent of this often tried 800-meter virgin
face but it took its toll on our bodies. We both
lost more weight than skinny guys should and both
got trench foot. Ouch!
What are you up to when you’re
not climbing?
Learning to be a parent; bumbling around on my skis
in winter and my mountain bike in summer. I’ve
also gotten back into skateboarding. I was fanatical
about skating when I was a kid. Now I go to the skate
park with my son, Noah. He is the youngest there
(3 years old) and I am by a wide margin the oldest.
I have 14-year-old punks laughing at all my pads.
Any training advice or suggestions?
If you are a novice or intermediate climber, get
out and climb as much as you can on as many different
mediums as possible. Ice, mixed and alpine climbing
is experienced-based. The more experience, the better
you are at making decisions and judging terrain.
Bouldering is a great basis for building strength
and movement skills that can be applied to all aspects
of climbing. My main feedback to climbers who want
to improve as an ice climber or alpine climber is
to take it slow. Work through the progressions and
learn from climbers with more experience. Get out
with a variety of partners and soak it up. Maybe
I’m a little
too cautious, but climbing is a dangerous game so
take small steps and get the necessary knowledge
and experience.
Who or what inspires you?
Dharma climbers and weekend warriors; essentially
both ends of the social spectrum. The climbing bum
who has given up everything for the dream and the
guy/gal with a full-time job and family that still
is super psyched and pulls hard.
How do you see climbing evolving in the next five
years?
My crystal ball is murky but if the last 10 years
is any indication on how fast ice climbing can morph
then the next 10 years is sure to have some surprises
in waiting for us: “freeing” El Cap A5
routes with ice tools in winter; single-push ascents
of north face of Jannu; massive enchainments like
the traverse of the Cerro Torre or Fitzroy group;
etc.
Care to comment on: heel spurs, leashes vs. leashless,
falling on ice, impact of drytooling?
Ice and mixed climbing is a constantly evolving game.
The rules are constantly changing at the whims of
top-end climbers. I got into this type of climbing
because there were no rules. I still like the anarchist
aspect of mixed climbing. Yes, it is contrived but
that is what makes it so cool. The further something
is removed from real life the more intrinsic value
it provides. But back to the question at hand, leashless
makes climbing easier (and is way more intuitive)
and heel-spurs make climbing big roofs easier. If
folks want to make something more challenging then
good but if someone wants to use the available technology
to get up something and it doesn’t affect the
environment or other people in a negative way then
why not. I say do what you want and just be up front
about how you did it. The worst thing in climbing
though is imposing elitist attitudes on others. Climbing
is about having fun so do whatever is fun to you.
It’s not like we are doctors or coming up with
the cures for the world, we are pursuing a selfish
endeavor and must keep perspective on that.
As for the impacts of drytooling, this can be interpreted
different ways. Its impact on alpine climbing has
been and will continue to be significant albeit slow.
Drytooling fast and “free” where aiders
use to be used is happening and will continue to
be pushed. Drytooling and mixed crags have also increased
the overall standard of winter climbing. Now the
average winter climber is knocking off M7 and M8
in their first year of mixed climbing when in the
not so distant past this was the realm of few experts.
Then there are the negative impacts of drytooling;
the rock damage. Scratching has become an accepted
evil of metal on rock but it is unsightly and should
be minimized. Maybe the future will be true mixed
free climbing where hands are used on the rock then
tools are donned for the ice sections.
Any near death experiences?
I certainly hope not. however, a few good epics.
My biggest wreck was in 2001 while helping to put
up a new mixed crag. I climbed up three bolts Rob
Owens had installed on lead then tensioned right
to a WI4 pillar which I was going to climb to the
top then haul the drill up to place the last few
bolts instead of aiding directly up to the drip we
were aiming for. As I neared the top of the pillar
the whole thing cracked sending me for a 30 -footer
with the falling mass of ice (estimated to be 20,000
pounds). I slammed side ways into the wall and the
ice slammed me. When I came too I was surprised that
no bones were broken, just lots of major bruising,
a few deep cuts and a renewed respect for slender
ice columns.
Are you a fan of climbing history? Explain?
Good question since I actually love climbing history.
I have a big library of climbing books both vintage
and modern. They are the only things I collect. I’ve
always been into reading about the old expeditions.
The explorations of Shipton and Tillman are so inspiring.
Climbing history is important since it gives you
a basis or foundation to build upon as a climber.
You can’t go forward unless you know where
you have been.
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